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Suponer que X tiene la distribución beta Beta(1,K1) y Y sigue un chi-cuadrado con 2Kgrados Además, suponemos queX y Y son independientes

¿Cuál es la distribución del producto? Z=XY .

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mi intento:

fZ=y=y=+1|y|fY(y)fX(zy)dy=0+1B(1,K1)2KΓ(K)1yyK1ey/2(1z/y)K2dy=1B(1,K1)2KΓ(K)0+ey/2(yz)K2dy=1B(1,K1)2KΓ(K)[2K1ez/2Γ(K1,yz2)]0=2K1B(1,K1)2KΓ(K)ez/2Γ(K1,z/2)

¿Es correcto? en caso afirmativo, ¿cómo llamamos a esta distribución?

tam
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jbowman
No estoy seguro, pero tal vez esto sea de alguna ayuda: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncentral_beta_distribution
¿Has intentado crear una segunda variable? DecirW=X+Y? Entonces podría obtener la distribución conjunta deW,Z e integrarse W para obtener la distribución de Z.
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No veo dónde está utilizando el hecho de que la función de densidad Beta es cero en el complemento del intervalo [0,1].
whuber
@whuber Creo que encontré el error. ¿Desea dar una respuesta completa o lo hago yo solo?
tam

Respuestas:

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Después de algunos comentarios valiosos, pude encontrar la solución:

We have fX(x)=1B(1,K1)(1x)K2 and fY(y)=12KΓ(K)yK1ey/2.

Also, we have 0x1. Thus, if x=zy, we get 0zy1 which implies that zy.

Hence:

fZ=y=y=+1|y|fY(y)fX(zy)dy=z+1B(1,K1)2KΓ(K)1yyK1ey/2(1z/y)K2dy=1B(1,K1)2KΓ(K)z+ey/2(yz)K2dy=1B(1,K1)2KΓ(K)[2K1ez/2Γ(K1,yz2)]z=2K1B(1,K1)2KΓ(K)ez/2Γ(K1)=12ez/2
where the last equality holds since B(1,K1)=Γ(1)Γ(K1)Γ(K).

So Z follows an exponential distribution of parameter 12; or equivalently, Zχ22.

tam
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There is a pleasant, natural statistical solution to this problem for integral values of K, showing that the product has a χ2(2) distribution. It relies only on well-known, easily established relationships among functions of standard normal variables.

When K is integral, a Beta(1,K1) distribution arises as the ratio

XX+Z
where X and Z are independent, X has a χ2(2) distribution, and Z has a χ2(2K2) distribution. (See the Wikipedia article on the Beta distribution for instance.)

Any χ2(n) distribution is that of the sum of squares of n independent standard Normal variates. Consequently, X+Z is distributed as the squared length of a 2+2K2=2K vector with a standard multinormal distribution in R2K and X/(X+Z) is the squared length of the first two components when that vector is radially projected to the unit sphere S2K1.

The projection of a standard multinormal n-vector onto the unit sphere has a uniform distribution because the multinormal distribution is spherically symmetric. (That is, it is invariant under the orthogonal group, a result that follows immediately from two simple facts: (a), the orthogonal group fixes the origin and by definition does not change covariances; and (b) the mean and covariance completely determine the multivariate normal distribution. I illustrated this for the case n=3en https://stats.stackexchange.com/a/7984 ). De hecho, la simetría esférica muestra inmediatamente que esta distribución es uniforme condicional a la longitud del vector original. El radioX/(X+Z)por lo tanto es independiente de la longitud.

Lo que todo esto implica es que multiplicar X/(X+Z) por un independiente χ2(2K) variable Y creates a variable with the same distribution as X/(X+Z) multiplied by X+Z; to wit, the distribution of X, which has a χ2(2) distribution.

whuber
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Very nice analogy! I feel a bit uncertain about the final paragraph though as the simplification only occur because X+Z is on both sides of the multiplication, which cannot work for an independent χ2(2K).
Xi'an
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But after some further musing in the Paris métro, I realised that because X/(X+Z) and (X+Z) are independent, using (X+Z)×X/(X+Z) or using Y×X/(X+Z) lead to the same distribution. Congrats!
Xi'an
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addendum: the reasoning goes for non-integer K's as well, if one defines a χq2 as a Gamma Ga(q/2,1/2).
Xi'an
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@Xi'an Thank you for those revealing comments. Indeed, one way to exploit the recognition that X/(X+Z) and X+Z are independent is to pursue the implication that their density functions will be separable: and that idea applies without modification to the general case of non-integral K. Even for those who prefer to compute the convolution XY directly, these statistical insights suggest a simple and effective way of proceeding with the integration by means of an appropriate change of variables.
whuber
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I greatly deprecate the commonly used tactic of finding the density of Z=g(X,Y) by computing first computing the joint density of Z and X (or Y) because it is "easy" to use Jacobians, and then getting fZ as a marginal density (cf. Rusty Statistician's answer). It is much easier to find the CDF of Z directly and then differentiate to find the pdf. This is the approach used below.

X and Y are independent random variables with densities fX(x)=(K1)(1x)K21(0,1)(x) and fY(y)=12K(K1)!yK1ey/21(0,)(y). Then, with Z=XY, we have for z>0,

P{Z>z}=P{XY>z}=y=z12K(K1)!yK1ey/2[x=zy1(K1)(1x)K2dx]dy=y=z12K(K1)!yK1ey/2(1zy)K1dy=y=z12K(K1)!(yz)K1ey/2dy=ez/2012K(K1)!tK1et/2dy   on setting yz=t=ez/2on noting that the integral is thatof a Gamma pdf

It is well-known that if VExponential(λ), then P{V>v}=eλv. It follows that Z=XY has an exponential density with parameter λ=12, which is also the χ2(2) distribution.

Dilip Sarwate
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