Una de las contribuciones tardías de RA Fisher fueron los intervalos fiduciales y los argumentos de principios fiduciales . Sin embargo, este enfoque no es tan popular como los argumentos de principios bayesianos o frecuentistas. ¿Cuál es el argumento fiducial y por qué no se ha aceptado?
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I am surprised that you don't consider us authorities. Here is a good reference: Encyclopedia of Biostatistics, Volume 2, page 1526; article titled "Fisher, Ronald Aylmer." Starting at the bottom of the first column on the page and going through most of the second column the authors Joan Fisher Box (R. A. Fisher's daughter) and A. W. F. Edwards write
Continúan discutiendo los debates con Jeffreys y Neyman (particularmente Neyman en intervalos de confianza). La teoría de Neyman-Pearson de la prueba de hipótesis y los intervalos de confianza surgieron en la década de 1930 después del artículo de Fisher. Siguió una oración clave.
En el mismo volumen de la Enciclopedia de Bioestadística hay un artículo pp. 1510-1515 titulado "Probabilidad Fiducial" por Teddy Seidenfeld que cubre el método en detalle y compara los intervalos fiduciales con los intervalos de confianza. Para citar el último párrafo de ese artículo,
Creo que en estas últimas oraciones Edwards está tratando de poner una luz favorable sobre Fisher a pesar de que su teoría fue desacreditada. Estoy seguro de que puede encontrar una gran cantidad de información al respecto revisando estos artículos de la enciclopedia y otros similares en otros documentos estadísticos, así como artículos biográficos y libros sobre Fisher.
Algunas otras referencias
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Bennett, editor de JH (1990) Análisis e inferencia estadística: correspondencia seleccionada de RA Fisher. Clarendon Press, Oxford.
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El concepto es difícil de entender porque el pescador lo siguió cambiando como dijo Seidenfeld en su artículo en la Enciclopedia de Bioestadística
Equation (1) that Seidenfeld refers to is the fiducial distribution of the parameterθ given x as fid(θ|x)∝∂F/∂θ where F(x,θ) denotes a one-parameter cumulative distribution function for the random variable X at x with parameter θ . At least this was Fisher's initial definition. Later it got extended to multiple parameters and that is where the trouble began with the nuisance parameter σ in the Behrens-Fisher problem. So a fiducial distribution is like a posterior distribution for the parameter θ given the observed data x . But it is constructed without the inclusion of a prior distribution on θ .
I went to some trouble getting all this but it is not hard to find. We are really not needed to answer questions like this. A Google search with key words "fiducial inference" would likely show everything I found and a whole lot more.
I did a Google search and found that a UNC Professor Jan Hannig has generalized fiducial inference in an attempt to improve it. A Google search yields a number of his recent papers and a powerpoint presentation. I am going to copy and paste the last two slides from his presentation below:
Concluding Remarks
Generalized fiducial distributions lead often to attractive solution with asymptotically correct frequentist coverage.
Many simulation studies show that generalized fiducial solutions have very good small sample properties.
Current popularity of generalized inference in some applied circles suggests that if computers were available 70 years ago, fiducial inference might not have been rejected.
Quotes
Zabell (1992) “Fiducial inference stands as R. A. Fisher’s one great failure.” Efron (1998) “Maybe Fisher’s biggest blunder will become a big hit in the 21st century! "
Just to add more references, here is the reference list I have taken from Hannig's 2009 Statistics Sinica paper. Pardon the repetition but I think this will be helpful.
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The article i got this from is Statistica Sinica 19 (2009), 491-544 ON GENERALIZED FIDUCIAL INFERENCE∗ Jan Hannig The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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Fiducial inference sometimes interprets likelihoods as probabilities for the parameterθ . That is, M(x)L(θ|x) , provided that M(x) is finite, is interpreted as a probability density function for θ in which L(θ|x) is the likelihood function of θ and M(x)=(∫∞−∞L(θ|x)dθ)−1 . You can see Casella and Berger, pages 291-2, for more details.
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Just to add to what is said, there was controversy between Fisher and Neyman about significance testing and interval estimation. Neyman defined confidence intervals while Fisher introduced fiducial intervals. They argued differently about their construction but the constructed intervals were usually the same. So the difference in the definitions was largely ignored until it was discovered that they differed when dealing with the Behrens-Fisher problem. Fisher argued adamantly for the fiducial appraoch but inspite of his brillance and his strong advocation of the method, there appeared to be flaws and since the statistical community considers it discredited it is not commonly discussed or used. The Bayesian and frequentist approaches to inference are the two that remain.
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In a large undergraduate class of engineering intro stats at Georgia Tech, when discussing confidence intervals for the population mean with variance known, one student asked me (in the language of MATLAB): "Can I calculate the interval as > norminv([alpha/2,1-alpha/2], barX, sigma/sqrt(n))?" In translation: could he takeα2 and 1−α2 quantiles of
a normal distribution centered at X¯ with scale σn√ ?
I said – of course YES, pleasantly surprised that he naturally arrived to the concept fiducial distribution.
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